Jessica is putting on an event to discuss the future of Second Life in the Fascinate Auditorium in SL11B. The region is full 80+. So, you won’t get in. I made it in, lucky.
In a couple of hours the video will be up on YouTube, SLArtist.com, and others. Watch here and the Firestorm blog for links. The link is in: Video Jessica’s SL11B Event
I’ll update this post every few minutes. Well… meeting is over and I have made a post meeting edit.
I was typing and listening. So, this is not as accurate as it could be. I was curious of there would be some new information. There really isn’t, well a little bit I had not heard before. I already new that Jessica’s take on Ebbe’s comments was slightly different than mine.
In the following I tried to catch the points being made. I wasn’t transcribing.
My post-meeting comments are a different color.
Jessica relates that the third party developers were surprised. Watching the video you can tell it took some time to soak in.
Jessica says people are taking away ideas that were never put forward in Ebbe’s comments. I’ve seen this and it was present in the comments flowing through chat. Even while being told SL would continue for years there were those sitting there saying Ebbe was killing SL and it will soon close. What does one do with those people? They are so disconnected from the reality around them, there is little to be done.
Jessica is pointing out that open source is not being closed out. While developers will not be able to contribute code, for now, they will be contributing to the new virtual world. Here there is room for some confusion. Jessica later in the meeting voices concerns about the Lab not including the community in the planning now. But, there is also the idea that developers will be contributing. It is hard to integrate the two ideas. The problem is it is not readily apparent how that will work. Are developers part of the community? WIll they ONLY contribute as a user, as opposed to a developer? We don’t know and that complicates what we can understand from this.
Saffia talks about Salems drowning of witches being used in a study of human attention. The story of early America’s drowning of witches in Salem was related with many details of the events. Follow up testing revealed people only remembering the drowning witches and none of the other details. They had been talking about people taking away from the conversations whatever they wanted to or whatever touched their deep fears. Saffia was supplying information that we have about knowing people do these seemingly odd behaviors.
Jessica asked a question in the Firestorm blog article ‘Is SL doomed?” Many seemed to take this as a statement that it was doomed. She is trying to reverse that misunderstanding with the SL11B event. Jessica has taken some heat for her article. Some founded but most of the heat is unfounded, at least from my perspective.
Saffia provides the YouTube address for TPV Dev’s meeting where Ebbe released the news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S-hoXupxXw This is the original source for all the rumors and stories going around.
Jessica is bringing up the concern of what’s left for open source developers. It is a concern for Jessica. As it is now, it doesn’t look like there is a place for third party developers. Ebbe has definitely said that in the beginning the new world will be closed source. So, they will not be submitting code.
Jessica talks about the people talking about protesting by not buying things because they are shutting down SL. That makes those people the agents of the SL demise. Jessica relates a series of examples. One being; why buy food? You are just going to eat it and it will be gone.
Jessica pushes the idea, live in the moment. She presents this idea well. Her shoe example is good. Why buy shoes? They will just wear out and be thrown away. So, fo get buying and go barefoot.
Peolpe are angry because they think SL is going to close. But they are the ones that may force it to close by withholding participation and not buying. Many of us are surprised that so many are totally convinced SL is closing. All the evidence is to the contrary. I suppose we should not bother them with facts. It works for manmade global warming.
Jessica points out that we don’t know if the new world will succeed.
We have years in SL. We will have SL as long as it is profitable.
Also, how confident are you that the new world will replace SL? Do you really believe Linden Lab can succeed in enticing all the SL users to the new world? Jessica has her doubts they can pull that off. Do you think Facebook could pull 20%, 50%, 80%, 90% or 100% of SL users to their new world? If you doubt that is possible, then you believe SL will likely be around for some time.
If you are selling a popular product, are you going to close out your sales in SL? Or will you sell in both places? This also applies to the Lab. If they are making money from both worlds, why would they close one?
Jessica is talking about how her blog post has affected people. Some tell her she should have and should tell everyone that everything will be OK. Basically lie. But, the future is uncertain. We don’t know that everything will be OK. The Lab is taking a risk. The new world could fail. Jessica fells providing real information about the future is important. Also important is that people understand the information. Today’s event is outreach to help people understand.
Jessica points out that for the first time since Philip, Ebbe is allowing Lindens to socialize with residents. This is a bigger deal than many may understand.
Jessica believes that when the TPV Dev’s asked about the Lab talking more with the press, the news on the new world sort of slipped out. Jessica believes this was not the best way to let this information out. I believe it was a spur of the moment decision. Did Ebbe realize that an interview he had given meant the news is out there? We’ll never know for sure. I think that thought crossed his mind and decided to let the developers in on it. Personally I believe there are lots of good reasons this was the best way. But, I also understand why many think it wasn’t.
Saffia is pointing out that parts of her inventory will never be used again. We gradually replace our inventory over time. I think this is an excellent point. I know that recently I have been looking through inventory and throwing stuff away. My once favorite dragon boots will never be worn again. People used to ask me where I got them. They were hot in 2008. But, not now. I’ve been sentimental and not thrown them away. But, I may as well because I would never wear them again. How much of our inventories are like that?
So, why are we fussing so much about whether inventory will transfer? Human silliness.
Jessica points out someone will create a new world. She would rather that it be Linden Lab rather than Mark Zuckerberg. Amen.
Jessica is rooting for SL to pull it off. Me too.
Name transfers… Jessica assures us that the Lab understands the importance names. Ebbe has said that name/identity transfer is being built into the new world.
Jessica thinks the new world will be mesh based. No prims. I expect there will be some type of simplified building system for new users that will be as easy or easier than building with prims and it will be an in-world system. But, that is all speculation on both our parts.
Consider a hair do with 250 prims and two scripts in each prim that slows everyone’s viewer to a crawl. Do you really want that stuff in the new world? Several people have brought this up. I know there is stuff I think should not be brought in. How will the decision be made as to what can come in? By computer or by people? If people, then which people? It is complex and the Lab has not sorted that out.
Jessica is pointing out that Ebbe has not said they will not allow stuff to transfer. He has said they are thinking about how to possibly import things. It is NOT a solid yes or no.
Saffia is talking about the Catery (sp? someone that makes cat-pets) having the cats in a database and suspects they can transfer your cats to the new world. They too are avoiding saying that will in FACT happen, but that they hope it can.
Comments are showing lots of people unhappy about not being able to transfer inventory. They seem to be missing the point that they are not being forced out of SL and that it will be here for years. Jessica gives her word that LL will not attempt to force people to a new platform. As long as SL is profitable, they will not shut it down. Jessica gets into the Lab’s inability to force us to do anything. They must entice us. If we stay on SL and keep spending money, SL will stay open indefinitely. Going tot he new world will be our choice
Saffia brings up ‘small team left behind.’ When Jessica asked about whether they transferring staff or hiring, Ebbe said both. We know that the Lab has hired 40 to 50 new employees. No one knows what was meant by ‘small’. There is much speculation about this and then it is built on. I keep pointing out the possibilities for small and that it was ‘small in comparison to the last couple of years’.
Jessica says Oz Linde believes in SL, enough so that he is rumored to have fought for his current position. This is the thing I did not know. I have no idea where this information comes from. Jessica is the only I’ve heard mention it. But, Jessica is a straight forward person. We may see things different but she doesn’t make up raw information.
Oz and Peat Linden are going to be at a Firestorm Q&A this coming Wednesday (July 7 ?). The Lindens have a road map for improving SL and they want to talk about it. Apparently they are also open to suggestions and thus Jessica’s article asking for help in the Firestorm blog.
Oz has told us they are doing more than JUST maintaining SL. They plan to keep SL open.
Saffia points out the new world will be closed source. She does not particularly like that idea. But, her purpose today is to assure people that SL will live on and Firestorm will stay with it. She is not going to throw her arms up and give up. This means we will continue to get new versions of the Firestorm viewer. I suspect the same is true of most other third party viewers.
Saffia is going to be talking about the new world in Sunday’s show. Sorry I missed in which show.
Jessica points out that SL was not open source in the beginning. Jessica is a big open source person. But says if she were starting a new project she would not open source it either. Once well developed, then she would open it to open source developers. So, she is not surprised the new world isn’t open source.
Jessica voiced a message to Linden Lab. Firestorm has the majority of the SL user audience. (Like 60-75%) She rhetorically asks if that is because it is easy to use? Better graphics? Faster?
The secret to its popularity is the teams openness with the community. They interact with the users. Jessica feels that creates ownership, community, and pride. All this is centering around how they treat their users. Another big thing is FS live support. Jessica feels the SL mentor programs of long ago were a big help to player retention. I agree with her points.
Her concern about new platform is that planning without the community participation resulted in SL Viewer 2.0. That really shakes confidence in the success of the new project. I agree it is a great concern. What we don’t know is how well Ebbe and the Linens will work with the community. I wonder what we would tell them that we haven’t already?
Jessica feels having the community involved in planning is the most important time in engaging the community. Jessica lacks confidence in the new world because of this issue. Thus she believes that SL will be around because the new world is going to be like Viewer 2.0. I think we have well told the Lab what we want. While I remember and point out the Viewer 2.0 disaster, this is a very different scenario. I am not at all sure how we would help with anything they are going to be doing in the next year or so. But, community likes to be asked their opinion.
Jessica says, ‘Don’t panic. SL will be around for a long time.” I agree completely.
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