The Phoenix Team is spending time and effort fixing problems in the Phoenix Viewer. That time and effort can be better spent on Firestorm. Phoenix is a dead end. It simply takes more and more effort to keep a lame, dying viewer alive that can’t support new features in SL without massive effort. Time spent fixing compatibility issues is time that cannot be spent building new features.
Consider that Cool Viewer is the first V1 with mesh render. It took Henri several months to add mesh render. Milkshake apparently started with V3 code and started adding features (there is some question whether Milkshake is a development effort or just a personal viewer the builder shared) to put a viewer out with all the latest features in much less time. It may be the newest and most feature rich viewer available. (Milkshake Viewer Review)
02:00 – Nigma asks how Jessica knows Linden Lab is killing the viewer. Again, I think the term ‘killing’ is misleading. However she characterizes the information about the end of V1 viewers, it comes directly from Linden Lab. Actually, it’s not news or even new information. Over a year ago I wrote that V1 viewers would eventually go away.
Jessica gets information from a TPV Developers bi-weekly meeting held on Fridays. I think Oz Linden hosts the meeting. I understand one has to be a developer and be NDA’d to be invited.
In the meetings information about what Linden Lab and the TPV Dev’s are doing/planning is exchanged in the hope of avoiding problems, duplications, and false starts for both sides. It is in these meetings that the Lab pointed out V1 code and viewers are being depreciated, phased out. The servers supporting V1 viewer features will at some point be turned off.
Linden Lab has officially stated they would NOT block the V1 viewers. They have never claimed they would support them indefinitely. They repeatedly tell people they will not fix bugs or problems in the Lab’s V1.23.x viewer. They refuse to work on it and they make no bones about it. Talking with Lindens I’ve heard them say eventually V1 viewers will just not work, unless someone upgrades them. Their hope is people will move away from the V1 viewers before that day arrives.
Content creators and others involved in development for SL are upset that the Lab won’t turn off V1 viewers. Those using V1 viewers are upset that the Lab will not continue to support V1 viewers. The Lab can’t win. Unfortunately some of the heat is transferring to TPV Dev’s. I think they need to learn to duck.
03:40 – Nigma asks if the ending of V1 viewers will have a significant impact on SL. At time mark 05:00 Jessica gets into an explanation of what has to happen and why.
The explanation is economic. It is realistic. I doubt the entitlement minded will understand or care. But, the fact is as we have always known, V1 viewers, old viewers will be replaced by newer viewers. Old things are always replaced by newer things.
The impact is going to be some people some people leave Second Life. the real question is how many. With something like 80% of users on V3 or TPV’s there are only 20% using older viewers. While some significant percent say they will leave, past experience shows it is a very small percentage. The Lab figures may be 2% will leave or have computers too old to run SL.
09:30 – Nigma asks why the new work done (presumably computer code written) in Firestorm and time put into Firestorm cannot be put into Phoenix. Jessica uses a good metaphor to explain why.
Pretend you have a home you love. The state comes by and says a highway will be built and your home has to come down. You can build a new home and move. Or you can do a kitchen renovation to the home you love and stay as long as possible. But, the day will come when your loved home is torn down. If you spent your time and money on a kitchen, you will be homeless.
This is essentially what is happening with Phoenix and Firestorm.
15:00 – Nigma gives the rules for Questions and opens the Q & A session up. Basically, don’t swear at or piss off the moderator. You have to tell people because the ones likely to do that aren’t bright enough to figure out it won’t work well.
Jessica makes a clarification for the Q&A secession. I think what she says opens the project up to a disaster and counts on people to be rational, which I think risky. She says the team will focus on Phoenix if asked to… and goes on to say doing so will, in a couple of months when V1 viewers die, result in users needing to shift to a Linden SL Viewer.
I know she means well… but I don’t believe any of that statement. If she did commit the team to Phoenix I expect most team programmers would mutiny. Also, I think the V1 viewers have more than a couple of month’s life left in them. Also, there are alternatives other than resorting to the Linden viewer. But, hopefully she made her point that putting effort into Phoenix is counter productive.
I am guessing her view for that statement is that all V1 viewers will stop working at the same time. If true, then everyone would have to change to a V3 viewer of some kind. I think there are some persistent developers out there that will keep hammering their V1 viewers into a workable form. I think that is insane, but they are free to pursue whatever development their hearts desire… and I’ll wish them well.
18:00 – Nigma asked Jessica how much she has been paid being a Firestorm-Phoenix person. Her answer: $0.00. None of the FS-PH Team get paid. They do the work because they enjoy it.
It should be obvious that if the community gives them a load of crap, the joy will leave. Then there is no point for them doing the work. I’ll take it that because the meeting was held the crap is getting too deep. This video should be a wakeup call for the community.
24:22 – Question: Green Man said… Will this be any more or less effective than the blog arguments that have gone on these last couple of weeks? B/C there is no real point to this if you and your teammates are just going to do the same round of insults, dismissals and elitism you have been engaging in.
Really? This a lawyer’d question, meaning a viewpoint is pushed and stipulated as true without basis. Such questions often have no point other than to be offensive and vent.
Jessica defends herself. She does explain that some V1 fans feel the team is being offensive or dismissive of their viewpoint because they think the idea that V1 will die is a lie. They simply do do not understand the reasons old software goes away. Remember the eclipse sacrifice? Humans do this stuff. I seldom put up with it. Having different beliefs is not grounds for insult. Jessica exhibits more patience than I would.
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